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Devil Fish mods to the TB-303

Simple TB-303 mods and maintenance

Robin Whittle  27 January  2008
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1 - Replacing the switches and installing a dust guard

SKHCAAs are available at Mouser in the USA:  www.mouser.com/search/refine.aspx?Ntt=688-SKHCAA  They used to be available at Farnell:

2 General maintenance

2.1 Never spray anything in the machine

2.2 Fixing little things - especially replacing the pots

Please see the page pot-wear/  for photos and more discussion of the 6 small pots.
Update 28 April 2002:  A USA-based person (with links to China and Asia) who requested I not put his name on this Web site has newly manufactured pots for the TB-303.  He is known by his eBay auctions as ChipForBrains.  He has requested that I make this address known for all people who want to order these parts:    chipforbrains at technologytransplant dot com  (Edit this to a proper email address - this obscuring is to help avoid spam address collection.) .  His site is http://www.technologytransplant.com .  Maybe "sales" at this address will work too - he has changed his email address in the past to avoid spam.  (By the way, he now sells a complete replacement TB-303 switch board (via eBay, it seems): http://www.technologytransplant.us/repairdocs/TB-303/SwitchPCB/TB-303SequencerSwitchBoard.html .  See his auctions here: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=chipforbrains&completed=0&sort=3&since=-1 )


In March 2006, the sets of 6 pots I received are good replacements, with a few caveats:
These pots are not made by ALPS, which is unsurprising, since I don't think ALPS has made them since the mid 1980s.   The only problem is that the Resonance pots have a spline on their shaft which is significantly wider than the others, and many of the original TB-303 knobs to not fit it.  However some do.  There's no rhyme or reason about this - of 30 knobs in 5 machines, I found 15 which fitted.  Those which did not fit would not fit at all.  Those which did fit were close, but easy to slide on.  See notes below on the 5mm longer shaft pots for modifying knobs to fit these wider shafts.  I have been told that it is practical to remove the shaft and wiper from the Alps pot and install it in the new replacement pot.  I am not sure if this report concerned single pots or the dual Resonance pot.  This may be a good approach if the technician is up for pulling apart and reassembling pots.

A complete set of 6 small "top" pots for the TB-303:
It is impossible to say how long any new kind of pot will last.  The ALPS pots, all things considered, have proven to be very reliable.  There have been  no obvious problems with the new pots from technologytranspant.com (except one replacement Resonance pot with an intermittent short between pins 5 and 6 due to wipers inside being bent and some pots from 2004 or so not having their contacts riveted properly).

The most common causes of failure of the original pots seem to be:
  1. The tracks being worn through by the outer rim of the internal rotating part pressing against it.  In the new pots, and I think the ALPS ones, this outer rim was intended as a dust guard, and is not normally touching the tracks.  However, if the shaft is pressed downwards or sideways, or perhaps if the central support point became worn, then this rim would rub against the tracks and ultimately wear through them.   
  2. Problems with the riveted metal pin no-longer contacting the metallised carbon conductive resistance track.  This is typically due to someone spraying oily substances in the machine.  It can be corrected (with unknown reliability) by cleaning the whole area and pressing the rivet a little more closed, to maintain greater pressure between the two items.  Probably, silver-loaded conductive epoxy resin would achieve the same result, but I am wary of how that would handle the heat of soldering - so perhaps it should be done once the pot is cleaned and re-soldered into the PCB.

No-one is producing TB-303 CPU chips, and it would be difficult to do since this kind of 4 bit CPU has not been made by NEC for many years.  Someone suggested they could reverse engineer its behavior, program a modern CPU to perform the same functions, and then build that CPU onto a daughter-board so it could replace the CPU.   If this is done, and if someone creates new PCBs, and finds various components such as the power supply transformer, the rotary switches, the waveform switch, the switched DIN socket and the marvellously reliable 6.5mm audio sockets, then it should be possible to make a TB-303 from all new parts.  This stage of hot-rodding, to the point of being able to make a new machine without original parts, seems to be something which only happens to the most venerated items of hardware, such as a VW engine!

One project for creating a replacement CPU, with extra capabilities such as MIDI, is: http://ultra303.ultrafex.de/

The following was written before the abovementioned replacement pots became available. I am providing it here for reference, but suggest that it is much better to purchase those proper replacement pots.

Replacing the TB-303's potentiometers - the small ones, not the tempo and volume

This is an updated version of what I wrote this for the Analogue Heaven mailing list on 19 January 2001.  In that, I incorrectly stated that the Resonance pot was log.  It is linear.

See the notes at the end about reliability, and how Rob (see below) can apparently
repair worn out pots.  He may also be able to get some pots manufactured by CTS: http://www.ctscorp.com/electro/ffpots.htm .

TB-303 pots have not been obtainable from Roland for many years.  They
are no longer produced by ALPS.  (Maybe you can still get a tempo or
volume pot from ALPS or even Roland.)

Finally, ALPS has a web site:

   http://www.alps.com/

The best replacement I know of, is to get a Panasonic pot and adapt it.

The Panasonic site is labyrinthine . . . they are under "Passive and
Electromechanical Components"
 

http://www.panasonic.com/industrial_oem/electronic_components/electronic_components_home.htm

From there choose "Potentiometers and Encoders" and you can download a
.PDF file.

The Panasonic and Digikey ( http://www.digikey.com ) part numbers are:

     Dual 50K Log  EVJ-Y10F03R54  P2G1503-ND

     Dual 50K Lin  EVJ-Y91F03B54  P2E9503-ND
 

The TB-303 pots are:

   Tuning          50K Lin

   Cut Off                   50K Log

   Resonance  Dual 50K Lin

   Env Mod                   50K Log

   Decay                                1M Lin

   Accent          50K Lin
 

Don't try the single versions of the Panasonic pots.  The Dual has a wider base,
and so is closer to the mounting arrangement you want.

The dual Panasonic pots have the same pinout as the original Alps
resonance pot, so you should be able to wire it up directly, though I
think the pins are slightly differently spaced.

For the single pots, just use pins 3, 4 and 5 of the dual pot.

The Panasonic shafts are flatted rounds, not splines as in the Alps
pots.  (I have scrutinized the Panasonic site, it it seems they don't do
spline shafts at all.)  To use the TB-303 knob with the Panasonic pot,
you will need to very carefully file or gouge or whatever most of the
knob's splines so it will fit the shaft.  I left 7 splines intact.  You
will probably want to file the tip of the shaft down as well.  A bit of
Blu-Tack will help hold the knob in place.  (Alternatively, perhaps
filing the shaft into a square or triangle might make it fit the knob
snuggly.)

The shaft is the right length.

The linear pot has a centre detent. (Digikey has no dual 50K pots in
this range without detent.)  I got rid of this by opening the pot (bend
the four lugs at the rear) and filing away something. (My notes are not
exact, so I can't tell you what I did, but it would be obvious once you
open it up.)

Also, I removed quite a bit of grease from the shaft bearing area to
make the pot easier to turn.  I suggest this for all these Panasonic
pots - linear and log.

If you get some log and linears of these dual pots, then this covers you
for all pots except the Decay pot - which is 1 Meg and so is outside the
range carried by Digikey.

My best suggestion for the Decay pot is a smallish 9mm single 1 Meg Log
(Oops - I had written Lin!) . . . well, my suggestion was a 1 Meg Lin pot
by Alpha from Altronics in Western Australia:  "R 1930" from
http://www.altronics.com.au  (Beware this may hang Netscape - I
reported the problem.) but they don't have any log ones.  If you can 
get a 1 Meg Log one of these perhaps it can be adapted to use in a
TB-303, but this would make no sense if you can get pots mentioned
above.

This is the sort of work which should be done by a technician.  If you
don't have a lot of soldering and electronic experience, then there is a
big risk that you will damage the machine.  Since TB-303 are rare and
expensive beasts, I urge you to get the work done by someone who is
unlikely to make a mess of it. 


The only decent replacements for the TB-303's small knobs I knew of are
from Rob at the following site.  However, in August 2004, I could see nothing
there about knobs etc. - he seems to be concentrating on motor car engines.

http://www.cyborgzero.com     

These are in clear or opaque resin of any colour, with fillings such as multicoloured
metallic flakes (actually: "alien heads, smiley faces, silver glitter stars, glitter") and
even LEDs.  Seriously trippy!   He can also "chrome plate" the tops of them, and
make new knobs for any other machine - all he needs is a sample.

In August 2002, I saw some of these knobs.  The "chrome plating" looks like 
aluminium and I am not convinced it would survive a lot of friction, but I did not try.

I fitted a set of translucent purple or mauve knobs to a purple AluCase Devil Fish
and they looked good.  Rob supplies some reflective aluminised cardboard cut and
punched to go behind the knobs.  These do not rotate - it was a single sheet to go
behind all the six small knobs. We did not fit it to this, but it is clear that the
reflective material would make the translucent knobs look quite a lot brighter.  
Translucent knobs show the shaft and the hole in the knob for the shaft, so they
are quite a different thing from opaque knobs.   Rob also sent some uncoloured,
light green and orange small TB-303 knobs, some "chrome plated" and they all
fitted the "Technologytransplant" Resonance pots, which, as mentioned above, have
a slightly larger spline diameter.

I think it would be good to make a modified knob which is 3 to 5mm higher, since
the TB-303 knobs are very low and hard to use.  

Another alternative is Altronics grey hard rubbery knobs with
coloured plastic indicator lines.   They are longer than the TB-303
pots, but they sit at the same height, so they extend further inside the
TB-303.  If the TB-303 is a Devil Fish, then you should trim off the
bottom rim of plastic with a knife so it does not hit the rear panel
Devil Fish PCB.  They are nice to grip!  Its a pity they don't extend
any higher.  You could probably pack them with something and make them a
mm or two higher, but then they may fall off.

They are:

H 6020 Red        H 6022  Blue       H 6024   Grey
H 6026 Purple     H 6028  Green      H 6030   Black

The Altronics site is http://www.altronics.com.au .  Watch out, it may
crash Netscape - I have reported this problem.

These knobs don't look as good, I think, as the standard knobs but they
are much better to grip.

The bases of these knobs are narrower than the TB-303s. One of the
benefits of the TB-303's knobs is that sideways forces are borne by the
knob against the top case, rather than bending the pot shaft.  Such
bending whilst rotating can easily destroy the pot, because the standard
pots (and the new ones mentioned above) have a cylindrical rim of plastic
which takes such pressure and runs over the conductive tracks.  This
can cut through the conductive tracks!  (Rob, mentioned above, is able
to repair pots with such damage!)

These new knobs do not fit like this, so please be careful not to move
the knob side-to-side because that will strain the pot and probably
cause premature failure.
 

NEVER SPRAY ANYTHING in POTS or SWITCHES unless you
really want to really foul up your equipment.

Never glue knobs to pot shafts either!  Use "Blu-Tack" or whatever the
local species of "stick posters on wall with putty-like *stuff*" is
called in your locality.

The above is the absolute sum-total of my knowledge - so please don't
ask for further instructions.  Please do suggest better alternatives!
The Devil Fish requires more power than the TB-303, due to the MIDI In system, the other circuitry and the new LEDs.  The 1.5k R167 would only have about 2.4 volts across it - 1.6mA (assuming there was no voltage drop in R168 and Q44) when the input voltage is 9 volts.  Actually, this is the voltage with 9.5 volts going into the machine and with R168 shorted and 1K across R169 (Devil Fish 4.0C and later).  So without these mods and with a genuinely 9 volt supply, the voltage across R167 would be more like 1.5 volts and the base current only about 1mA.  We need a transistor with a beta of 180 or more when running with a collector current of about 180mA .

I tested a batch of  MOSPEC TIP30As to see what base current I needed to get 200mA Ic with about a 4 volt VCE.  The best was 1.02mA and the worst was 3.58mA.  The 2SB596 needed 0.94mA, which is a beta of over 200.

I picked those transistors which required less than1.5mA and put a 2.2k across R167, to boost the base current at lower voltages.  Perhaps some manufacturer's TIP30A and TIP30Cs (higher collector voltage) would have generally better betas.  

3 Increasing the range of the Cut Off and Env Mod pots

3.1 Cut Off pot extended range

3.2 Env Mod pot extended range


4 Improving the bass response



 

TB-303 / Devil Fish reliability

Here is an edited version of what I posted to the Analogue Heaven mailing list in March 2001, regarding reliability.
  

Jarrod Trainque wrote:

> okay I'll rephrase for the original poster:
>
> How long can we expect to see tb303's around... given that not
> everyone takes ultimate care of their machines, one or two 303's
> probably crap out permanently each year... given that there is a
> finite number of 303's in existence, how soon should we expect to see
> the effects of age?

There were supposedly 15,000 or so TB-303s made, of which most were
sold.

I guess there are 10,000 or so in "circulation" now - of which quite a
few thousand are sitting in the closets of the singer-guitarists who
primarily bought them in 1982-84.  They may have their batteries in
them, so the batteries will be rotting and probably making a mess of
the  machine.
 

I have seen TB-303s which have been so heavily used in techno/dance that
the lettering, paint and plastic is worn away around the cut-off and
resonance knobs - but the machine is still working fine.  The pots can
last an amazing time, but they can also fail without warning.  Pressing
on the knobs or sideways pressure will hasten their demise of the pots,
since internally, some stress is taken by a circular piece of plastic
which rides *on* the conductive track.

I have written to AH and on my site:

   http://www.firstpr.com.au/rwi/dfish/303-mods.html

about replacing the pots.  

The plastic cases can be pretty bad, but still functional.  The ultimate
replacements are from Switzerland, personalised with your text, colour
scheme and special requirements - with extreme beauty and precision,
from DJ, musician and CNC/CAD fiend Martin Rothlisberger:

   http://www.acid.ch 

At a pinch, you can use a TR-606 case - just swap over the metal plate
around the tact switches.

The knobs and buttons are metal coated plastic and never wear out.  The
small knobs can fall off, so I use a little "Blu-Tack" (for sticking
posters to walls) to keep them in place.  ****Never**** glue the knobs
in place!!!!
 

The dangers to the machine include:

1 - Running it from an adaptor which puts out more than 9 volts DC,
    with the low load current - ~140 mA - of the TB-303 / Devil Fish.

    A common problem is using a 12 volt adaptor or a "9 volt" adaptor
    which is meant to put out 9 volts with a load of 500 mA.  At a lower
    current it will put out 10 or more volts.

    Higher voltages burn out the regulator transistor.  See my page
    for how to replace it with a TIP30.
 

2 - The power adaptor socket can get ratty.  This is easy to replace -
    they are available everywhere, including Radio Shack / Tandy.
 

3 - Leaving batteries inside the machine, where they leak.  This can
    make a mess of the battery contacts.  The spring at the bottom is
    difficult to replace - except, I guess, unless you rat one from
    a TR-606 or some other device.

    The greatest danger is that the battery "acid" (it may be alkali -
    but whatever it is, it is corrosive) will affect the circuit
    board and components.   This can get very messy.

    One nasty effect of a corrosive atmosphere is the corrosion of the
    power and write-enable pins of the memory chips, because they
    are at about 6 volts.  They corrode from the inside and you may
    have no continuity - but the memory sort of works.  Beware!  Only
    one brand of memory chip is affected like this, but I can't
    remember which.   I have plenty of spares - but otherwise these
    1k x 4 battery-backup static RAMs could be hard to get.
 

4 - Spraying anything, especially oily things, in the switches or
    pots.  This can be cleaned up when the switches are replaced.  Oil
    can make the pots fail - which is very serious.

    Never spray anything in anything!
 

5 - Dropping something on the knobs and breaking the circuit board.

    This can be repaired, but it is labour intensive.  Always pack
    the machine carefully so nothing can bang against it in transit.
 

6 - A CPU chip dying.  This is pretty rare.  There are no replacements.
    It is a custom CPU chip which is unobtainable and cannot be copied
    - unless someone wants to spend a few years on programming another
    CPU to do the same job.
 

7 - The sync socket's solder joints breaking.  This happens all the
    time and is easy to fix.
 

8 - Likewise, the solder joints on the audio sockets.  Remarkably,
    the audio sockets *never* fail in all my experience.   They are
    a marvel.
 

9 - The tempo and volume pots could fail and be hard to replace, but
    in general, they work fine.
 

The tact switches become intermittent due to dust - this makes the
machine impossible to program.  They can be replaced and I always
install an internal flexible dust guard - which seems to make them run
for a very long time. 

There have been no failures of the magnificent little ALPS pots in the
Devil Fish controls.

The three position toggleswitches become less distinct in their action
with a lot of use - but they still work.  As far as I know, they have
only failed when something has dropped on them.

The 3.5 mm sockets in the Devil Fish are extremely robust, but there
have been some perplexing intermittent failures of the CV-In socket -
which causes it not to run properly from the internal sequencer.  I have
tried to eliminate this problem.  It can usually be fixed by plugging
something in and out of the socket a few times.

See the end of the Devil Fish release notes for a few other minor
issues.
 

There will still be TB-303s running and being used after we are all dead
and gone - fewer than now, and most will be rather worn out - but some
will appear from the closets of guitarists of the 1980s almost untouched
for many decades to come.  Those with AluCases may have their cases
battered and faded with many years of work, but they will still be
robust and probably look all the more fantastic for their many travels.
 

  - Robin



 

Robin Whittle - First Principles and Real World Interfaces
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